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And to make the problem even more annoying. Wasn't satisfying me, it made me mad that she was very much in a hurry, she had something else on her mind, and I killed her. Okay. Is that nitrogen is [tryvalent 00:31:48]. Warning. "The experiment requires that you continue.". Yeah. Look, the participants, it's not just blind obedience, "Oh you tell me so, yes sir, no sir, three bags full, sir.". "Well, why can't you deal with it in a normal way?" And not just because he was vain, which everyone agrees he was, but because he loves his country. Why did you do this?" He won't answer. Jeff Jensen's book is The Green River Killer, A True Detective Story. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. If any sizeable fraction actually acted on their homicidal fantasies, the streets would be running- running red. If those two participants refused to go on. David had always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. It is still trotted out to explain everything from hazing to war crimes. Because, ultimately, the play offers up a reason for his nastiness. In 1962 Stanley Milgram shocked the world with his study on obedience. How could you? We have nothing. September 15, 2022 Radiolab for Kids and WNYC Studios present Terrestrials, a six-episode miniseries hosted by Lulu Miller (co-host of Radiolab . Like, maybe he thinks Othello is sleeping with his wife, we're not sure. They've got a very plausible, very credible, high status scientist at high status scientific institution. But if you could somehow get a real Iago in the room, and subject that person to questioning, and really get them to sort of fess up as to why they did it, would that make a difference? That is captured the nitrogen right out of the air. Especially because she found out he was leaving the next day to direct more gas attacks. Like you just did, which happens constantly. It's a graphic or an illustrated novel. That's one of the things that we- that we need to know. I got to tell you, I'm not totally comfortable that you're providing all of the information [inaudible 00:57:52]-. And almost like blaming the victims. Yes. I-. So, here's the interesting thing. Prince-nez? It was developed in his institute. Investigating a strange world. Terms and conditions apply. You know, "I- I- I Harley, you know, regret the fact that I killed a young maiden or defamed the king" or whatever it is. Thanks. And then, and- So, he says that and you're like, "Okay. The story of Job is that one day God and Satan are having a conversation, and they're saying, "Have you checked out Job? James Shapiro, Professor of English at Columbia University. But he organizes soldiers, he organizes whole gas units. I left him, went home. Bonobos. Every time that guy got the word wrong. And on June 13, 2003, Gary was secretly taken out of his jail cell, and brought to a sort of very nondescript, concrete, ugly office building. All right, so I'm going to talk to you over this intercom, okay? Thank you Ben. Addeddate 2012-10-10 05:15:40 Boxid OL100020610 Identifier wnycs-radiolab_the-bad-show Add Review 4 Views DOWNLOAD OPTIONS 1 file ITEM TILE 4 Files 4 Original And it's moving at about one meter per second. And also, thank you to Alex Haslam, Professor of Psychology at the University of Exeter. "Research in any field is a must, particularly in this day and age. The one that everybody knows, the so called baseline. And she said, "My ex-boyfriend. Well if the idea is that people will do bad if they think it's good, if it's a good noble cause. All right. And when nitrogen and hydrogen bond together, the thing you get-. Yeah, I agree with that. Cruelty, violence, badness. And that was a question that had haunted my father for decades. He was trying to repeat this master stroke. We'll be right back to Haber, but wait- wait. Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). They're engaged with the task. Hmm. And invited me over. Right? Podcasts; . Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. And "Well, why the rage?" I'm just trying to imagine that. And so he says that and you're like, "Okay, yes come over now. They're not doing something because they have to, they're doing it because they think they ought to. Natural deposits would be like seaweed or-, Actually two nations in South America went to war-. The first victims of the Green River killer were found in the summer of 1982. That guy yelling of course was an actor and the shocks weren't real, but the questions in the air at the time were very real. And he said, "Look, this is what you're going to do is Of course, you don't want to do this. Well I mean, I know it does, sir. And while David's sitting in the bedroom with this friend, the guy looks up at him and he says-, Like, through his teeth. But over the entire ocean, there's a lot of gold dissolved into the sea. With a history of industry leading online lending technology developed in the heart of Detroit, Rocket Mortgage is changing the game. Wow. When you call someone, "Evil." And they think it's right. Under some circumstances we don't do the bad thing we're told to do because" here's another flip "We don't have to be told. So, the subject seemed willing to shock another human being, but as soon as you say it's an order. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting at the thought that he had anything to do with zyklon B; but he did. Let me- let me jump just, uh, a quote in front of me. Eugene [inaudible 01:07:32], Sierra Hahn, and everyone in the manuscript and archives department at the Yale University Library. [inaudible 00:21:03] just cut it out. Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. You're telling this [inaudible 01:02:30]. A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of. Time's up. You know [crosstalk 00:10:58]. Within minutes the gas reached the Allied side. Did members of Haber's family die in the concentration camp? That's my thing and that's where I'm going to stand on it. Gary says, "I needed to kill." Well, you know, you can see that's a good thing. Because if they're going to record it, I mean I'm going to record it here to but [inaudible 00:27:30]. SciShow Tangents That was not a real shock. Zyklon A, which was originally just a pesticide-. To find page after page of yeses. So he plans to destroy Othello. I invited him for dinner. All rights reserved. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. This was one of the bloodiest arenas on the, uh, Western front. That afternoon, he gets in his car, goes home, he finds my mom on the deck, sits down next to her. Really, that story's been told a million and one times for the last 50 years, we've just got to get over it. Now that's important, it's very important. Why did you take these women off the streets and want to destroy them? And shortly after his return, Clara allegedly confronts him and says, "Look, you are morally bankrupt. Ear drums, God. Just to back up for one second. And Hitler takes over. You're not the first one. What makes boys boys and girls girls. And he is basically homeless at this point. That one simple, "Why?" Then you left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said, "Yes. Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslam is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. Under extreme, extreme pressure at high temperature, and then he forces hydrogen into the tank. Although, clearly on some level they know it isn't. Clara, also from Breslau, also from a Jewish family. radiolab-archive. So, I'm going to talk to you over this intercom, okay? We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. So, he starts experimenting. 2012-06-22 . You can see this in the surveys that the men filled out after the experiments were over. We'll be right back. Um, we lived together for a couple months. When you needed to stop for breath, your hand ran light and steady. Despite the chlorine gas. That's like an adult blue whale of chlorine. No one has ever said about a sex tape that I've ever, so no. Then suddenly the thought occurred to me that my life would be much happier without him in existence.". Imagine how it feels to have an award-winning team by your side through the mortgage process. And Christensen, I dated her several times bef- three times- two times before. Haber's gas troops, unscrew, they open the valves on almost 6,000 tanks, containing 150 tons of chlorine. And my father wasn't buying it. RadioLab is supported, in part, by the National Science Foundation, and the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation. So, as we begin this episode of the Bad Show, check out The Blank Slate by Steven Pinkner, one of the world's leading experts on language and the mind. And so I expanded the sample where we asked about 5,000 people-. And, uh, she had got a disgusted look on her face and said that he was up in the bedroom. Then he left some space at the bottom for them to elaborate if they said yes. I got it in front of me, I've just got the data from the Milgram study. That he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. We've got to know now. "The experiment requires that you continue.". This story made us wonder is David's friend, is he unusual? He's standing there on the front pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings. He brings her up as an example of a- of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. Anytime the experimenter said, "You must continue." He had snapped. Radiolab is supported by Casper. Would you really think that this guy's a good guy? But he does it with a kind of amoral athleticism, he does it without humility, without a lot of doubt. So, he sends a letter to the Ministry of Education resigning and he leaves Germany, telling a friend he felt like he lost his homeland. Because it's like we started with this experiment that we all see as evidence of humans' latent capacity for evil. Some people describe it as a cloud, and then others describe it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land, and it's just sort of approaching. WNYC is America's most listened-to public radio station and the producer of award-winning programs and podcasts like Radiolab, On the Media, and The Brian Lehrer Show. That's correct, because it takes such energy and pressure to separate it, its trivalent bond is so strong that when it comes back together, that energy is released, it can be used for life or death. Thank you to James Shapiro whose most recent book is called Contested Will. So Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Jensen, was one of the lead detectives tracking Gary Ridgeway. And he said, to start, "You want to know about bad? A given episode might whirl you through science, legal history, and into the home of someone halfway across the world. Fritz Haber's a professor, small university. They couldn't deploy it, they couldn't deploy it. And she takes a service revolver-. Year 2003. This episode of Radiolab, we wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. And I devoted one class session to the topic of homicide and why people kill. That's radio producer Ben Walker. The Bad Show.ogg download. They're trying to be good participants. Okay, we're going off tape now. Scattered One dead dad. "It's okay to admit this, you need to admit this.". The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. He ultimately spent 17 years searching for this man. But did it, publicly, in front of her friends. Radiolab was created by Jad Abumrad and is produced by Soren Wheeler. But you know, we ended up walking this question around to different people. Who they would kill, where they'd do it, when. Continue using the last switch on the board, please. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. Who's going to do this powerful piece of science. Making him the most prolific serial killer in American history. ", Now you're saying actually that you could read that very dark fact as being actually evidence of something quite-, Well if you dressed up, and if you just had some minor variance to the paradigm you could, presumably, make this up. He figures out a way to take a lot of air that's filled with these little nitrogen bonds clinging to each other, and pump it with big iron tank. And I heard about him from science writer, Sam Kean. And when you stick a seed, like a wheat seed in the ground. Especially when it came to one particular fact. He's chomping on a Virginian cigar. The use of it, he couldn't have imagined. They will spare his son if he fessed up and tells them what they need to know. In fact, his chemist had given this particular pesticide a smell. One of the reasons it grows, is because it's sucking up all the nitrogen in the soil. Even when their sorrows almost were forgot, and on their skins is on the bark of trees, have written my life with my knife carved in Roman letters. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues, uh, made the arrest. Very distinctive looking man, bald on top, trim nice mustache, wore a little [pince-nez 00:28:20]. Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah. And it becomes Zyklon B, the killing gas of the concentration camps. They brought in psychiatrists and forensic psychologists to try to get an answer. What's interesting is that how all of these struggles, all of them, play out the same way. They continued shocking their corpses. He goes straight to the German high command, and he pitches this idea. We lived together for a couple months, he was very aggressive, he started calling me a whore, and told me he didn't love me anymore, so I broke up with him. He'll be our guide for the segment. But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife, Clara Immerwahr. This is what totally pulled me into the story. But it wasn't until a few years later that he learned something that really put what happened that night into context. 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